it's sad, but that's how it is. you don't have to agree to the rules, you just have to play by them.

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the meaning of life / pi = 13.37 (at 4 significant figures)
The secrets of my mind.

i was nice to people, then i realised i got no where for being nice. i was just used as a stepping stone for other people to get what they wanted.

if can't beat them, join them. so i did. i've lied, i've decieved, i've been underhand about things to get what i want.

i lost a few friends doing it, eventually i found a balance between being an outright arse getting every thing i could for me and being nice to people when i could and in a way that wouldn't mean i'd get used as a foot stool.

you just have to do what you have to do for you, and then when you're fine, worry about the rest.

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the meaning of life / pi = 13.37 (at 4 significant figures)
The secrets of my mind.

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Sorry I can't stop laughing at your avatar

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sorry but the world isn't full of perfect people like in your avatar you obviously aspire to be like. I know you're joking but still  

Even though I am very handsome (or so people tell me)  

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No MSG.

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accept it or get no where in life.

i was nice to people, then i realised i got no where for being nice. i was just used as a stepping stone for other people to get what they wanted.

if can't beat them, join them. so i did. i've lied, i've decieved, i've been underhand about things to get what i want.

i lost a few friends doing it, eventually i found a balance between being an outright arse getting every thing i could for me and being nice to people when i could and in a way that wouldn't mean i'd get used as a foot stool.

you just have to do what you have to do for you, and then when you're fine, worry about the rest.

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i can relate and like your reasoning so will try it and wait for it to become life to become more natural for me before I am more charitable. Though it feels selfish I need to get mine first.

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No MSG.

if you can't look after yourself you havn't got a hope of looking after some one else.

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the meaning of life / pi = 13.37 (at 4 significant figures)
The secrets of my mind.

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look at it this way; if you don't get yours you'll be in no position to help people get theirs.

if you can't look after yourself you havn't got a hope of looking after some one else.

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so we're all players in the game and playing in the game since the dawn of time means we have to put others down and ourself first? Is everyone like that or just the poeple struggling-I mean can the nice guy win?

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No MSG.

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Quote: from anthoron at 11:01 am on June 16, 2009

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look at it this way; if you don't get yours you'll be in no position to help people get theirs.  

 if you can't look after yourself you havn't got a hope of looking after some one else.

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so we're all players in the game and playing in the game since the dawn of time means we have to put others down and ourself first? Is everyone like that or just the people struggling-I mean can the nice guy win?

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unfortunately, yes, you just have to put yourself first. my parents raised me to be a nice enough person, and i was.

then i realised it just wasn't getting me anywhere, sure i was always there for people, they weren't there for me though, they'd gone on to other things to benefit themselves. the nice guy just gets left behind. if you want to be nice and get left behind that's fine.

you can get through life being the nice guy.

but the nice guy won't be the successful guy, the rich guy, the powerful guy, the influential guy. he'll always be just "an average person". guess that's ok if you want to live a life of mediocrity.

as i said, the balance has to be found, once you've put yourself first and got exactly what you want, what you need. then you can be the nice guy again, however untill that point there's no reason to be the nice guy and sacrifice yourself for the good of people who'll probably be kind enough to forget what you've done for them.

it's sad that some times you've got to be cruel to be kind, but that's life. don't have to agree to the rules that are already there, you've just got to know how to play by them.

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the meaning of life / pi = 13.37 (at 4 significant figures)
The secrets of my mind.

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and what becomes of the rebel who breaks the rules but not the big laws? they are frowned upon or really the ones wnho stay true to themselves OR they are deemed arrogant and bad seeds?

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that depends entirely upon how they go about it.
if they do what they need to do for themselves and nothing more.

power to them, let's be honest, once you start playing the nice guy you're going to be used as a stepping stone. unless that gives you the warm and fuzzy feeling then there's really no point doing it. nothing wrong there, to be honest.

however, if they're just out there to step on every one and every thing to find with the justification of "because i can" then soon enough i'm sure they're going to lose their footing.

not quite sure i got the entire question, but i'm hoping that's what you were looking for, unfortunately i don't quite share your eloquence, much to my envy.

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the meaning of life / pi = 13.37 (at 4 significant figures)
The secrets of my mind.

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all my life I've been put down so have put others down as well. Then some serious shit happened in my life and I was hurt and tried to be peaceful and loving to others. People still hurt me and put me down. Now I'm strong enough to put others down and go up against people as that's what I see around me. I don't want to but it's a competitive world so eat or get eaten?
Man I wish we could all just be cool to one another. If I try too much like that people take advantage. Serious.

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